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What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« on: January 11, 2010, 06:11:36 PM »

So, everyone, what would your perfect Small Press publisher do?

We all have our gripes and pet peeves over what we like and don't like in books and from our publishers.  If the perfect publisher would come along, what would they offer?

I can assume that Mark would say "offer paperbacks at a low cost" ha ha.  Some of us may have some nitty gritty things like: No supposedly "perfect" bindings, better proofreading, have accurate release dates, offer books by specific authors, etc.  Some may even say, less gore and more story (which is sort of up to the publisher because they do decide what they publish).
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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 06:11:49 PM »

My perfect publisher would offer and have the following (I may add to this later as I think of things):
1) Signed limited edition hardcovers of 100 - 300 copies or based on preorder amounts.
2) Great cover art by talented artists (internal art is a plus too).
3) Well made hardcovers that are not "perfect bound" books in disguise (if glue is the only thing holding the book together, it isn't going to last…and is basically a paperback with hard covers at way too premium of a cost).  If one pays for a hardcover, one expects it to be bound as a hardcover should be bound.
4) Good paper stock… not newsprint or thin and easily ripped cheap stuff.
5) Coupons and deals once in awhile for the readers on a budget but still want your books.
6) Always $40 or less for all books… Preferably in the $20 - $35 range.  This might be unrealistic, but I can dream.
7) Free shipping on all pre-orders.  A great incentive to entice pre-ordering.  Especially when it costs 10% - 20% of the book's cost to have it shipped to you.  In other words: Shipping costs… suck.
8 ) Reduced shipping when ordering multiple in-stock books is a must.   
9) Be honest and forthright on all dates (shipping dates, contest end dates, etc), and keep us up to date in the process…. Maybe even have a scale… I want to see things like, "We are expecting this book to be out during October 2010," or, "This book will be in next week, get your pre-orders in now and save on shipping!"  I don't care if the book is announced a year before it will come out… I just want to know when it is expected to come out… in an ACCURATE prediction. If the date changes, tell us!
10) Have interesting contests.
11) Update your website often, and keep it accurate… there are a lot of poooooor websites out there because the shop owners probably think their books speak for themselves.   FIRST, your website is going to tell customers what you are about.  Keep it clean, accurate, and easy to navigate.  Think of every page as if someone who has never had a Small Press book before is reading your site for the first time.  They are learning to trust your product.  HINT: Misspellings and errors will not make a good first impression. 
12) If you mess up, tell the customers.
13) Be honest.  These are the years of easy communication and easy information via the internet.  If you lie, people are going to find out.
14) Be courteous and friendly.  If someone writes you an email asking about anything… write them back.  If you can't answer their particular question, tell them that. Great Customer service will get you everywhere.
15) Have darn good Proofreaders.  Errors really suck and pull me out of the story.  Multiple errors may make my trust for a company go way down.
16) Have fun and be fun.   

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I don't really care about slipcovers or traycases… keep those for your lettered books.  I don't really care for the over sized coffee table books (they just cost too much and are very heavy to read… they do work for art-filled books, but that is it).  Plus, oversized books are hard to fit into most bookshelves. 5.5"x7.75" to 9" x 11" is big enough for all regular books.  On the other hand, tiny books kind of suck too.  Especially if you are paying a premium price of $35 - $100 and expect a regular sized hardcover book. Plus, a Mass Market Paperback (around 4.5 x 7… or less) sized hardcover is a big disappointment for me.

Dust Jackets, I like them, but I have also seen some nice jacket-less books recently. If you go jacket-free, make your cover unique.

More double novellas would be nice (either as flip-books or just two-in-one)… so we readers get more bangs for our bucks… or scares for our wares…  Getting a 60-100 page book for $35 - $40 is kind of disappointing even if it is a great read.
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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 07:12:28 PM »

Everything Ant said. That and cook me a prime rib dinner.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 08:49:46 PM »

(either as flip-books
Nice list, and I'm not sure there's anything I could add -- nothing that leaps to mind, anyhow -- *except* no more flip-books.  That's a ugly, worrisome trend that's popped up in the last couple of years that I can't stand.  I understand the sci-fi pb historical legacy behind it, but IMO it should have been left permanently in the past along with the metallic covers of the '80s horror pbos. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 04:17:04 AM »

Haha, well in our defence, we actually wanted the 60s sci-fi feel so it was deliberately done for that reason...


As to what I'd like... shipping factored into the costs of the book so I don't have to pay 50% for the cost of the book and 50% to post it to me... but that'll never happen.
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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 05:16:41 AM »

Publish.
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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 05:34:38 AM »

One advantage any small business has is that they can add a personal touch to customer service.

I'd like to see them apply that to their books as well.  When you get to the part of the story when the spiders are everywhere - at least one spider should jump out of the book and start crawling up the reader's arm.   Grin

In order to manage costs, I wouldn't mind having this provided in a TPB.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 12:08:16 PM »

Don't take money up front. If you can't afford to publish a said book from your own funds then you should not be in the business. It's like living paycheck to paycheck.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 12:10:49 PM »

Cutter: Welcome to the forum!

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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 02:46:29 PM »

Hi Cutter, welcome.

I kind of disagree. At least with the established publishers. I like paying in advance. It's like having the payment out of the way. But of course I don't trust the infant companies that might not make it.

Look back at Hellbound Books. That's a publisher I loved. I wish there were more just like them.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 02:51:55 PM »

Walt was very cool. I wish he'd stuck around longer...
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Re: What would your perfect Small Press publisher do?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 02:52:36 PM »

The man was a prince. Still is, presumably. I miss him.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 03:01:18 PM »

Thanks for the welcome guys!

I've just been burned too many times by putting money up front. I lost money when Hill House and Humdrumming went out of business. I also still have money up front with Cemetery Dance, in some cases they've had my money for 5 years. I asked back for most of my pre-order money but I've kept a few because I really want them, but I'm scared I'll lose that money too.

I just don't agree with that practice anymore, so I pre-order books through the Horror Mall or Camelot where they don't charge me until a book is published. It makes me feel a lot safer.
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 03:28:37 PM »

You're not alone, Cutter.  I don't do paid pre-orders, either, with the *very rare* exception (like the PS edition of Joe Hill's upcoming HORNS).  I do reservations through Camelot or HorrorMall or wait 'til they inevitably hit eBay...but money doesn't leave my pocket until book is ready to ship.

My system must be working...I've only been burnt twice, once by a bookseller fifteen years ago or so, Black Orchid Books, who took my money but didn't send the book, and by Shocklines, who promised an exclusive chapbook with my order of THE GIRLS IN THE BASMEMENT AND OTHER STORIES (R. Garton), but it was never produced.  The latter I count as a very minor cost of doing business in the sometimes unreliable small press and hold no hard feelings toward Matt; the former still pisses me off, but I understand they're now out of business so I guess karma does get around eventually.  But caution has prevented me from being burnt by a publisher.

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 03:36:02 PM »

Haha, well in our defence, we actually wanted the 60s sci-fi feel so it was deliberately done for that reason...

Sorry, Steven -- trust me, I wasn't singling out your book specifically  Smiley - it's just the increasing trend of the format that bugs me. 
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